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The ships log : 10.00am stardate 12/02/2018.   The triology of the 'fishing' was held at the RNLI  aimed at the South Bay Traders & Association along with others of associated interest and it was an interesting turnout with the usual suspects along with an extra bod from SBC.

The Chair opened the meeting outlining the Council's need for cutbacks with savings of £2mil pa expected to be made over the next five years.  He then asked how can we do more over the next 10 to 30 years? (ergo 'make more')

The role of the fishing industry? To summarise the previous two meetings we need to keep the facilities up to date.   However short & sweetly managed, there was a comfy seat with an extraordinary view;-)

FA:  From a traders point of view the harbour together with the tradition of fishing was the best free show in town.  It gives Scarborough integrity , community & proper jobs. we need to find a way of marketing special shellfish ... make the most of our natural and historic heritage. 

JC:  I would only reinforce that view... adding the importance of the diversity of the harbour.   Smaller boats add to more diversity, in turn supporting local families. 

DJ:  The harbour is a magnet.  How about a visitors centre? 

JC:  Only if this was commercially viable, not only commercially but sustainable. We would need an undertaking or caveat from the Council.

DJ:  If we could ringfence the income.

JC:  Even if revenue neutral .. anything eg WC's /parking it needs to be  at least neutral and subject to material  cost.  There are too many loss making ventures although  the market is currently strengthening.  There has been too many empty shops &  to lets,  it is very hard in the private sector. We need a balance through out the harbour.  We are all a bit nervous and have due concerns.  Historically everytime we have this conversation with the local authority it  keeps asking the same questions.  We have been very patient and there is a lot of interest.  There are not many resorts where we all co-exist. 

The harbour  is very unusual and impacts the whole Old Town community.

A scuba diver :  The scallop dredgers are driven out of Scotland due to the damage they are doing to the seabed. The monitoring of auctions. Processors.. 5 processors ... build of processing plants creates a monopoly. An auction house.
We need a plan B. 

MoP:  Do local fish & chip shops sell local white fish?   It is not landed here.  Most of the white fish is caught up north, eg Iceland. 

JS:  We need to look at sustainability. 

JJ:  A bone of contention is the harbour funding...

The leisure side of the harbour  : there is limited reserves for leisure boats, visiting boats find it very difficult to get into the harbour.  The fishing & leisure income is about the same income wise. 

Another pontoon in the inner harbour, how would that impact?

SBC:  Have looked at extending pontoons... to squeeze a few more boats in there.  The problem is with navigation and we have got to accept vehicles up to 70m in length.

The warehouses pay and invest in the harbour (circa £1k pa). More facilitites are needed such as showers and a toilet block.

MoP:   Need to mix it up a bit ... be a bit more creative. 

JC:  Listening to the history, when John Shepherd signed of parts of the harbour near the Ivy House & Luna park ie floating pontoons.

JJ:  He also looked at the outer harbour ...

FA:  It can be done but again needs to be cost sensitive. 

The West Pier has the ability to host events eg the Goldwings, Armed Forces Day along with smaller events

SS:  What about putting a structure over it? 

MoP: It is a waste of space in winter.  Though it provides convenient short term parking.  As does Marine Drive.  How much importance of access & parking? 

The day visitors (mainly camp visitors) it is convenient to use the park & ride. Others want to park conveniently close to the harbour. Not spaces for camping vans.  (another wade into the parking ... yawn)

Ah, so ...

FA:  What is the Councils vision for the West Pier car park?

It needs to be kept marinal. 

A visitors centre needs to be in keeping with the industrial.  Perhaps repositioning the crabstalls and opening up a plazza with a heritage based contribution.  Keep the traditional, more stalls and to have traction and fit in with the local community. 

More leisure facilities?  The last things we need is more retail outlets.  Certainly no residential units.   The noise from the traditional harbour industry.  

Fishing was once decreasing but is now back in with more smaller boats under 10m.

Clarify the parking income, look at the big picture...   Oh but I was.

for the dead travel fast... better late than never, eh?  Slightly distracted by a whisper.

Ah, so ...

"It's another demonstration of the power of Big Data - of mining a huge batch of statistics to see patterns of behaviour that were simply not apparent before. Computers have crunched 22 billion identification messages transmitted by sea-going vessels to map fishing activity around the globe. The analysis reveals that more than 55% of the world's oceans are subject to industrial exploitation.

By area, fishing's footprint is now over four times that of agriculture. That's an astonishing observation given that fisheries provide only 1.2% of global caloric production for human food consumption. The investigation shows clearly that the biggest influences on this activity are not environmental - whether it is summer or winter, or whether there is an El Niño or fish are migrating, for example.  Rather, the major controlling factors are very largely political and cultural."


For the same old, same old.  How time flies ... 




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Get the Wheels In Line

"6:04am 15th February 2018

Scarborough could become a 'Shellfish Conservation Area.'

The discovery came from a meeting from Scarborough Borough Council and the Environment Agency. 

They were meeting to give members of the cabinet a chance to ask questions on the poor quality rating for the south bay. 

Cabinet Member Councillor Mike Cockerill explained that the detail of the meeting was just to firm up that there were in fact four main causes to the contamination in the South Bay, namely commercial waste, human waste, seagull waste and dog waste.

Investigations will now be made into seeing whether it is possible for Scarborough to become a shellfish conservation area, as Mike explains:

"If it is achieved, it will give the Environment Agency even more control powers as to what can go into the sea.

I've been in touch with colleagues and the Harbour Master and we are going to actively investigate the possibility.

The vast majority of the catch landed at Scarborough Harbour, about 95% of it, is shellfish.

What was mentioned by the guy from the Environment Agency was that you can have an area of coastline designated as a shellfish protection area and we were unaware of this."

More on this to follow ... ;-)

"3:03pm 26th February 2018

Multi-million pound funding to transform the UK’s coastal communities through investment in jobs, skills and local businesses opened for bids today announced by Coastal Communities Minister, Jake Berry.

500 new businesses supporting 5,500+ plus jobs have been created thanks to the Government’s Coastal Communities Fund...

Information on how to apply for the fund is available here: "

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Chips off the Old Block

" ...  McCain’s corporate affairs director, Bill Bartlett, said: “This is a significant investment for McCain, and one that will allow us to meet the ongoing increased demand for our products, address long-term capacity and capability opportunities and deliver the latest technology and broader environmental benefits. This proposal certainly secures our operations in Scarborough and continued employment in the area for decades to come.”

McCain remain’s the Scarborough area’s largest private employer and works in partnership with over 200 suppliers, potato growers and community organisations in the region.

The company’s proposal is currently at the pre-planning stage, with full plans to be submitted for consultation in the coming weeks.

If approved, work is due to start on the revamp project in the summer, with the new factory expected to be up-and-running operationally within three years.

Coun Derek Bastiman, leader of Scarborough Borough Council, praised the investment saying: “This is an extremely significant announcement from McCain, which cements the company’s commitment to Scarborough and the Yorkshire coast, and from which our area’s economy stands to benefit massively.

“An investment of such magnitude will have a hugely positive impact on the local job market and supply chain, which in turn will benefit many other businesses and local families.”

About that Kill n Grill ... ;-)

"We will leave the ******* and leave the Common Fisheries Policy, but hand back sovereignty over our seas a few seconds later," he said. "Our fishing communities' fortunes will still be subject to the whim and largesse of the ****-*** for another two years."

Absolutely no conflict of interest.

Ah, so...

Coast & Flood Protection Schemes.... 3.00pm

Anyone got some spare rocks?

Socks !!!


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Ports & Peirs

Oh, but it is ... according to Motormouth ;-)

"2:04pm 19th March 2018
(Updated 3:08pm 19th March 2018)

A million pounds has been granted towards the Church Street Flood Alleviation Scheme in Whitby, with an extra £500,000 also approved fro the Whitby Piers. 

The announcement was made by Councillor Mike Cockerill today (Monday 19 March) following on from a Local Enterprising Partnership meeting last week. 

The £1.1 million for the work at Church Street has been approved providing that Scarborough Borough Council can get the planning permission for it. 

At a recent full council, the £9 million funding for the piers project was approved, but the development can't go ahead until the £2.7 million of European funding comes through. 

Councillor Cockerill said:

"We've said we want to start work on the piers in 2018 and that's why I got a motion passed at full council meeting. 

As soon as we have the £9 million of funding, we will go ahead with the work, we don't have to go back and ask for any more permission. 

The piers and Church Street Flood Alleviation Scheme are entirely separate projects but if the piers did ever fail, there would be a catastrophic effect on Church Street.

Church Street suffers already with flooding even with the piers there."

"Two hundred years ago, the ancient rivalry between Whitby and Scarborough was as strong as ever, especially amongst the sea-faring communities in both towns.

In terms of history and geography, it seemed that Scarborough had nearly all the advantages, whereas Whitby had suffered from several insuperable obstacles...

"However, after its medieval heyday, Scarborough went into long, slow, continuous decline. Richard III was the last royal patron and protector of the borough and his death was severely damaging. The Reformation robbed Scarborough of its three friaries, all but one of its hospitals, and the Black Canons of Bridlington, who had invested so heavily in its parish church. Scarborough’s great annual herring fair came to be dominated by Dutch and Flemish traders and the town’s markets, provisioned by its agricultural hinterland, were challenged by neighbouring Seamer.

Yet during the 17th century Scarborough was saved by sea-coal and mineral water. The former, mined near the north-east coast, shipped out of Newcastle and Sunderland, and sold mainly to meet the insatiable demand of Londoners, increased year by year in volume and value. Therefore, when Scarborough’s one decayed pier was virtually obliterated by storm in 1614, the Privy Council imposed a levy on all coal shipments out of the Tyne and Wear to pay for its reconstruction and future repair. Scarborough had become an official “port of refuge” for the growing fleet of east-coast colliers...

"In contrast, Whitby’s history had been markedly different. Unlike Scarborough, Whitby had a river outlet, the Esk, which bisected the town, but only a narrow coastal plateau, not a fertile agricultural hinterland. Also, the tidal Esk was navigable for about only a mile upstream to Ruswarp and its estuary was shallow and narrow. Tightly hemmed in by steep hills to the west and east, even as late as 1801, Whitby township covered a mere 48 acres and half of that sand dunes and mud banks.

Whitby’s historical heritage also contrasted with Scarborough’s. It was overlooked and dominated by the rich and powerful Benedictine abbey, whose extensive estate in Whitby Strand had the independent status of a Liberty. Whitby had won borough status only briefly and its maritime trade in fish, both white and red herring, wine, salt and coal, was abruptly impoverished by the dissolution of the abbey in 1539...

"As Whitby prospered its population increased rapidly, so that by the census of 1811 there were 1,850 families and a total of 6,469 residents living there, only 241 fewer than recorded in Scarborough. So this once remote inaccessible “fishing village” had become one of the nation’s leading maritime industrial ports..."


That must be one....   of?


Sacrificial Alloys.

Active Intervention?

tis all inclusive ;-)

Ah, so ...

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The Inevitable

"Multi-million-pound funding packages from the Government are vital in helping to protect communities on the Yorkshire coast, a senior councillor has stressed.

Scarborough Borough Council’s cabinet has this week approved urgent work to stabilise cliffs in Filey in an effort to prevent the only access road to a hamlet of 45 houses crumbling into the sea .

The work, which will be carried out in three phases, will start ahead of the tourism season to prevent disruption to the neighbouring Primrose Valley Holiday Park.

It is expected to protect the steep road and properties for the next 20 years, allowing time for residents to come up with a long-term action plan.

The project is being funded by a £572,000 Flood Defence Grant from the Government, which is being delivered by the Environment Agency.

It is one of a series of coastal protection and preservation schemes that are set to come to fruition in the coming months with help from funding from the agency,

Coun Mike Cockerill, who holds the harbours and flood protection portfolio on the council, said: “We are very pleased that the work at Flat Cliffs in Filey is going ahead and that the Environment Agency is funding the scheme 100 per cent.

“It is vital that we receive this funding. The borough council has no statutory responsibility to do this but under our permissive powers we can act on residents’ behalf.

“However, it would be very difficult for us to get any funding as a council.

“In this instance we are very pleased to work closely with the Environment Agency and get their technical and financial support. It just shows what can be achieved by different organisations working together.”

Coun Cockerill said the Environment Agency had also put money into a cliff stabilisation project to protect Scarborough’s historic Spa, long-awaited repairs to Whitby’s crumbling piers and a flood alleviation scheme at Filey.

He said: “We anticipate that these three schemes will all start this year. The overall cost of the schemes is £30m and the Environment Agency has contributed a significant proportion of that – over half at least.

“This funding is absolutely essential in helping to protect and preserve the coastline in Yorkshire.”

Coun Cockerill said he hoped to announce the completion of the contract for the Scarborough Spa stabilisation work as early as next week, with contracts for the other two schemes following closely behind.

He said: “It is going to be a hectic year.”

The Environment Agency said helping to protect communities against coastal erosion was a key priority.

A spokesman said: “We are very pleased to be able to provide investment to Scarborough Borough Council for work to help delay erosion at Filey Flat Cliffs and Scarborough Spa Cliff.

“These are complex schemes, which involve detailed engineering on sites which have geological, hydrological and land use considerations as well as heritage, social and environmental protections. The works are designed to deliver multiple social-environmental benefits whilst protecting communities against coastal erosion now and in the future.

“For example, 30-metre (98ft) metal piles will be used at Scarborough Spa. The work at Filey Flat Cliffs will involve soft engineering techniques.”

“It is going to be a hectic year.”