Raithwaite : An Alternative View

Benefitz Betty's picture

The Woodland Trust has started a campaign against developers at Raithwaite Hall.  Selective Campaigning or selective memory ...

Interestingly the Woodland Trust have been increasing its hold on public woodland since Govt. policy to privatise UK forests and woodland in 2010.   

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/huge-areas-of-woodland-to-...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12257835

Gripping stuff:

https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/mediafile/100229275/stake-of-uk-forest-...

It seems that just like education and health, stick a word Trust in and Trust means? Privatisation.  Should the Woodland Trust hijack all the UK's hansome forests? 

Privatisation by the back door : https://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2015/feb/17/privatisation-u...

Except the Raithwaite Estate is Private.

Mind this is a post truth culture so lets have a closer look at what exactly the campaign is about on a local level:

In 2008 : http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/163-30m-hotel-plan-for-estate-left-b... "... North Yorkshire developers the Skelwith Group had bought the land and would develop it into a five star hotel – with an eye on wealthy Londoners who are expected to fly up by helicopter for weekend breaks.The 30m development, to be complete by 2010, will include a 42 bedroom hotel featuring a state-of-the-art spa and will be a sister hotel to the Skelwith Group's 100m Flaxby Country Club, located between York and Harrogate...."

2012 : Plans were submitted and approved : http://democracy.scarborough.gov.uk/documents/s46928/HRP12395_12_00592_F...

http://planning.northyorkmoors.org.uk/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/Generic...

There are no future plans to develop within the remit of NYMNP.

In 2015 : Skelwith went into liquidation : http://www.thescarboroughnews.co.uk/news/raithwaite-owner-s-subsidiary-g...

Here and now the latest developments:

Raithwaite 161017 Public Consultation 3.pdf

Public Consultation has been ongoing since September 2016.  Fully aware of the sensitivity of the site local consultations are ongoing : http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/tourism-needs-raithwaite-plan-1-8357297

"A public consultation was held before Christmas to liaise with people, before the application was submitted by the estate. Richard Jackson, chairman of Yorkshire Ventures, who own the estate said that a number of changes were made to the proposals as a result of this consultation.  These include introducing a shuttle bus service to Whitby town centre and proposing a ‘left turn’ lane for those driving into the estate from Whitby. Mr Jackson added that Yorkshire Ventures will be working closely with residents and the borough council as proposals are considered and they “can’t wait to bring this fantastic new development to Whitby.”

Further, the application No 16/02555/FL with SBC has just been validated following extensive surveys and discussion with press notices indicating that public consultation will continue until 3rd March, with a scheduled decision date marked for 13th April.  That said, as 'expert' consultants Woodland Trust were asked to submit their own 'comment' by 8th February.

http://www.yorkshirecoastradio.com/news/local-news/2217084/campaign-agai...

Confirmation bias?

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/what-is-confirmation-bia...

Rightly or wrongly ... the Truth is Out There.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlYWPOtilMw

Wait.

Mind, not on't  tinternet ...  cos that would be daft.

Nobody.

Hmmm ...

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/why-using-middle-class-a...

"to be relevant it is no good endlessly talking about the things we like to talk about to those with whom we agree"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAYJgTdZRw0

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Captain Qahn's picture

Tethered Goats

http://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/15081641.65_stolen_sheep_and_goats_r...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/raf-typoon-jets-scrambled...

Oh: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/new-york-doorman...

http://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/15081210.Our_resources_have_never_be...

Ah, so  ;-?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-38761536

http://www.minsterfm.com/news/local/2218988/waterlogged-ground-forces-vi...

"... Safety concerns for those wielding weapons with slippery conditions underfoot during the evening combat event as well as concerns over the condition in which the ground would be left after the event, have forced festival organisers at JORVIK Viking Centre to relocate the Festival Finale.

"“It was York’s unique waterlogged conditions that preserved the Viking remains in Coppergate for 1000 years, and we’ve learned that there is no way to tame the elements.

With so much standing water on our potential battlefield at Rawcliffe Country Park at the moment, we’ve decided to move the Festival finale back to its recent home of the Eye of York,”

The Festival is organised entirely by York Archaeological Trust, operators of the Jorvik Viking Centre, which re-opens on 8 April 2017 following the December 2015 flooding.

“If there is one thing we have learned from King Canute, it is that no man – king, Viking or otherwise – can hold back the water!”

For further information about this year’s JORVIK Viking Festival, please visit www.jorvikvikingfestival.co.uk or follow #JVF17 on social media."

How Now.

Fickle St...   Oh, The Eye of York is Clifford's Tower.

fascinating :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_Castle#/media/File:York_Castle_dioram...

http://www.yorkarchaeology.co.uk/

Tigger?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEjgPh4SEmU

Trigger.

Captain Qahn's picture

The Wrath of ....

http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/raithwaite-expansion-plans-hit-obsta...

" ... planning officers at the North York Moors National Park have objected because the stone cottages which would be on the highest part of the prime site, would have an adverse impact on the landscape.

They also say the development would have “an adverse impact on irreplaceable woodland habitats” especially bats...

Park planners add: “The development is substantial in scale and is set in a location surrounded by the National Park. There would be a loss of ancient woodland. New planting, hedgerows, management of retained woodland and adoption of sensitive construction techniques do not alter the fundamental issue regarding loss or deterioration of irreplaceable habitats.”

http://planning.scarborough.gov.uk/online-applications/advancedSearchRes...

"16/02555/FL | Erection of 64 no. cottages, 72 no. apartments, 64 no. forest lodges, restaurant, swimming pool, gym, tennis court, cafe, creche and shop. Provision of additional car parking, roads and footpaths including landscaping and ancillary works | Raithwaite Estate Sandsend Road Sandsend Whitby NORTH YORKSHIRE YO21 3SR "

Ohm thats very interesting cos they ain't on the published list.

 

 

 
Captain Black's picture

Woodland 'Trust'?

https://www.yorkshirecoastradio.com/news/local-news/2374053/40m-raithwai...

"...The plans had been recommended for approval by planning officers but Scarborough Borough Council's planning committee rejected the plans following objections from a number of bodies including The Woodlands Trust and the North York Moors National Park Authority both of which had concerns about potential damage to ancient woodlands.

Jack Taylor, Woodland Trust campaigner, said:

“We are thrilled that the committee saw fit to ignore their officer’s recommendation and  throw out these destructive proposals which would have caused four hectares of damage and loss to a precious, irreplaceable ancient woodland and the wildlife within it. We would like to thank the committee  and all our supporters who campaigned to save this vital habitat.

While this is  great news for the local area, Raithwaite was just one of more than 700 woods under threat and we need to continue to stand up for trees to ensure they are safeguarded from development threats.”

The Woodland Trust say that the planning application would have affected four hectares (10 acres) of ancient woodland with the wildlife most likely to be breeding in the woods including five species of bats, red listed linnet and amber listed bullfinch. The trust say the wood is full of native tree species including ash, poplar, field maple, lime, oak, elder, hazel and hawthorn. Ancient woodland indicator species found there include redcurrant, bluebell and honeysuckle.

Under planning rules the Raithwaite Estate can appeal the decision."

Oh.

http://newsthump.com/2017/08/31/ive-never-seen-game-of-thrones-the-new-i...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

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