Whitby's World Heritage

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Back to where we were ...  Hearts at Stake ;-)  Whitby may not be the centre of many people's universe, still it is a Jewel of the 'Yorkshire' Crown ... Will Whitby ever receive World Heritage Status?

For many, it already has .... Boomerangs, Whales erm, and the self-explanatory:   

http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/letters/letter-do-not-forget-heritag...

"The Goth weekends have long been extremely successful events for Whitby and hugely beneficial to the towns economy.

The Abbey has been on the headland since approx 500-600 AD and a tremendous place of Christian spirituality for all that time.

It is a sacred place and most holy, due to the presence of Saint Hilda, prioress of this place, whose memory we celebrate at this time of the year when many are playing out the relatively recent “stories” of Dracule and Hallowe’en.

Christian holiness and the sacred status of Whitby has been with us and a major part of our heritage for almost 2,000 years and this is very important to bear in mind, especially when planning events which are, most certainly, not Christian.

The Dracula story and its accompanying “fringe-like” events and paraphernalia are relatively recent ... and is only a story.

Do not forget the real, true and wonderful heritage of Saint Hilda and all the truly inspirational mystery and spirituality of this very sacred site so close to us."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3PELIU1i4c

Romans.

 

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Mortal Mindy's picture

Whitby 1913 - A Short Film

What a treat, nicked & shared:

Of interest is 0.09 the shape of the building at the foot of the East Cliff that fits with the 2015  Endeavour Wharf building designed by Ginger and also how much has been lost, below 'St Peters' Church, note -  the black clad and hound ;-)

http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-a-visit-to-whitby-1913-1913/

Meanwhile:

2015 Fishing 'Back on the Map'   http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/features/fishing/whitby-harbour-hopes-for...

“I tasted it and it wasn’t from here. If it hasn’t been caught by a Whitby vessel and landed here then it’s blatantly not Whitby fish. We need to be able to brand it as ours and protect the name.”

Ah, yes, time flies or in plain English; Page 185 ... not quite the RHS but worth a read when there's now't else to do ;-)

Bede

http://www.heroofcamelot.com/docs/Bede-Ecclesiastical-History.pdf

Ah a tune, phase ... :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlv9ucJLCvc

 

Mortal Mindy's picture

Anglo Saxon's DFS

According to CH4 at tea time, the Anglo-Saxons dug a 3ft by 135ft well through somekinda rock directly below Bamburgh Castle ...  Eh? Give or take an arm and a leg, I spose they had fairyfolk back then ...  apparently they chucked molten hot iron fire down it and then some cold water to make the stone crack...  no G & T back then.

Can't seem to find any mention of it anywhere;

http://bamburghresearchproject.co.uk/?page_id=222

Oh well, DFS value? Oooh I'd say a cool cost of  55£mil .... inc the tunnel ... value once complete?   Spose it depends who gets their  paws all over it....  no doubt under lock and keep .... One for the Vaults:

https://bamburghresearchproject.wordpress.com/category/anglo-saxon/

Aha found it

"inside the castle walls it is equally impressive. Inside the hall of Bamburgh's stone keep you can see a Saxon well, cut straight down for 21 metres through solid rock. This well was known for its pure waters, and without it the castle would never have existed, or been able to withstand sieges."

http://www.britainexpress.com/attractions.htm?attraction=3045

Seekers keepers eeek  ...

If the 'story of Bede reads like Camelot ... then mebbe King Dick does belong to York afterall.

Anyhow who knows? Who was there? Onwards.

Mind, Bamburgh Castle, thats what I call a proper Northern Powerhouse.

Anyhoos, thats why imho Whitby deserves World Heritage Status ... and why Whitby is so special for the Goths tooowhooo. Complex. St Hilda?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOznLthmnlk

 

 

 

Mortal Mindy's picture

Vikings? Take a Holtz

Wot part of Pirates don't you understand?

This is great ... erm Oo R  Oo R

http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/local/opinion-what-have-the-vikings-...

Oh so, Vikings told jokes did they .... Hmmm

"The Romans are easy – straight roads, baths, draughty theatres and numbers that are letters.

But the Vikings? What they found, they knocked down (sorry Whitby Abbey) and what they built, fell down (the little pig who built his house out of mud and wood didn’t come off too well against the wolf).

But places names, oh yes! – by’s are everywhere, with a rather vague meaning of farm, village or place.

About as useful as FC, United or City, really. Hence Danby was ‘Danish village’ (try their pastries). There seems to be some dispute over whether Whitby was White Village or belonged to a Viking called Hviti, and I’m not going to be the one to get between fighting historians.

A few are rather super.

You won’t get better than Ugglebarnby (Owl Beard’s Farm). Staithes meant landing place, and anyone who assumed that the Vikings all just sailed up the Esk should know this is also the derivation of Toxteth (Toc’s Staith) in Liverpool. The word Riding (not in the horsey sense) comes from ‘thrithing’ meaning third. Sleights comes from ‘Sletta’ (flat field).

Although I guess after Blue Bank anything seemed flat.

They also set a trend for living high inland, mostly because they wanted a good view of ... rival Vikings attacking from the sea. If you’ve ever been to Raw, and thought just ... why? This is why.

And then there are their descendants. Although the Vikings finally suffered humilating defeat on their home turf at Stamford Bridge (history repeats itself) by ‘soon to lose his unbeaten record’ King Harold, many settlers remained.

Oswald Harding, in ‘Yorkshire, North Riding’ (1962) wrote “the village folk live in fierce detached shyness. The Viking blood is still strong-running. They are a silent dour people, busy among shore-wrack and sea-junk, nets, crab-pots, boats, tackle and such”

The men were probably not much more fun.

More sinisterly, when I tried to research...and by research I mean Google...the heroic rescue of the crew of The Visitor by Whitby lifeboatman in 1882, I found one lengthy, descriptive, if rather oddly written article about the deed which kept banging on about how the locals had never lost their pure viking blood.

It eventually dawned on me that I had stumbled onto a website of the far-right. And that, of course, is why I deleted my browser history.

Finally, they gave us the one Viking joke I know. Thor, the hammer-wielding, slightly camp, Thursday name provider, was riding Odin’s eight legged horse (this is a well-researched joke) through the heavens.

“I AM THOR!!!” he cried!

“You forgot your thaddle thilly”, said the horse."

by Mark Holtz 17/11/15 via Whitby Gazette

Got any horns under your hat then 'Holtz'?

Thickle? ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bib-j34lOT0

Darn it .... whatdayamean you get a thrill from seeing blokes in lipstick !!!!

Hmftkkkss. Radar.

wot on earth are they doing on the beach?

One a day .... or was it one day at a dime ...

dysfunctional.

Got a Monk on now, is sad, so sad ... but never confused ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gWDM4X4xUQ

I'F'Crane do one. The Dance of Honor ... spose I'll have to grow a weird.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Captain Qahn's picture

Ruswarp Saxon Stronghold

lol : http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/letters/letter-ruswarp-street-dug-up...

"It would appear that the gas board have found part of a Saxon hoard in Ruswarp when they last closed the traffic off to dig up the street.

As I can think of no other explanation why they would be doing the same thing again on my count four times in four years and are now about to look for the rest of it?

It surely can’t be down to the fact that their inefficient workmen haven’t done the job properly again and so have to dig up what they were supposed to do last time and fix it properly?

One wonders if perhaps they are indeed looking for the rest of the hoard they didn’t find last time, or is it that they are addicted to the pork pies and sandwiches in Jacksons butchers shop that keeps them coming back?

Perhaps if they brought in a bunch of archeologists they could fix the gas main for them, as they seem incapable of doing the job in one go without creating mayhem by blocking off the road once a year.

Are we to be treated to the spectacle of trenches surrounded by yellow plastic fences with nobody working in them for weeks on end as a as a regular yearly event?

Thank God I live on the other side of the river with no gas so I don’t have to pay for this ridiculous performance."

 

Capt. 'Bob''s picture

Paddle Faster

via JKD

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/grace-darling-200th-...

"On the night of the September 7, 1838, there was a violent storm raging outside. Unable to sleep, Grace noticed movement on Harcar Rock where a paddle steamship, The Forfarshire, had foundered and broken in half on its way to Dundee."

A paddle steamship called Forfarshire ?

Ironic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3rpsEfgJK4

 

 

Mortal Mindy's picture

Monkshire

Devolutionary ideas... Geordieland? P31

http://www.newcastlecityfutures.org/NewcastleCityFutures2065Report.pdf

Did you know that ... nah why bother

A  North Assembly ... sounds a bit anal ... quite like ForFarshire in a geordie accent pmsl

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/business-news/north-east-great-l...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKy-Dxtb6bI

???

Ha. FAROOQ HAKIM - BT regional director, North East. .... BT  ... I have a few Q's 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxuThNgl3YA

Please explain why an urgent order for tinternet and a phone line on the 30th October has 'failed' to be delivered on four promised occasions and remains incomplete?

http://www.btplc.com/Thegroup/BTUKandWorldwide/BTRegions/England/Regiona...

http://www.btplc.com/Thegroup/BTUKandWorldwide/BTRegions/England/Regiona...

Mortal Mindy's picture

Pope Watch at Whitby

http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/local/historic-whitby-decision-threa...

"An idea to make Easter a permanent date would overturn a Whitby decision made more than 1,350 years ago.

The suggested change has come from The Archbishop of Canterbury, The Most Rev Justin Welby, who says leaders of the Church of England will join discussions with other churches about fixing the date in the same way as Christmas.

At present Easter, the most important festival in the Church calendar, falls anywhere between March 21 and April 25, because it is the first Sunday following the first full moon after the vernal equinox. This year Easter Sunday is March 27.

It was at the Synod of Whitby in 664 AD, led by St Hilda, that Easter was fixed."

"At present Easter, the most important festival in the Church calendar, falls anywhere between March 21 and April 25, because it is the first Sunday following the first full moon after the vernal equinox. This year Easter Sunday is March 27.... "

Sounds like an 'open' invitation ....  Oi. 

 

Capt. 'Bob''s picture

Easter 'Fix'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35880795

"While the Roman Catholic Church had its well-publicised falling-out with Galileo and the fruits of his astronomy in 1633, its need to calculate the dates for Easter and holy days meant that it had a long-standing interest in astronomy, and it established its first observatory in 1774..."

"The convoluted system for working out when Easter will fall is the result of a mix of Hebrew, Roman and Egyptian calendars, culture and custom.

The Egyptians based their calendar on the Sun, which was adopted by Roman and then Christian culture, while Judaism bases its calendar partly on the moon, and Islam also uses the phases of the moon.

Easter's date fluctuates not least thanks to attempts to harmonise those solar and lunar calendars, with the issue further complicated by the fact that different strands of Christianity use different formulae for their calculations.

In 1582 the Gregorian calendar, which was adopted and promoted by Pope Gregory, was largely designed to make the date of Easter earlier, and easier to calculate. That is the calendar that we still use today."

"It seemed for a little while, back in 1928, that the UK, at least, had found a solution. That was when the Easter Act was passed, which fixed the date as the first Sunday after the second Saturday in April.

However, the idea failed to catch on, and - although the original document still sits in the House of Commons archive - the British government has never brought it into force, because it agreed that would need to be done in consultation with Church leaders. That consultation might - at last - be on the horizon."

Oh.

http://www.yorkshirecoastradio.com/news/local-news/1929736/epilepsy-even...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNxeF4KMsY

Observatory.

Mortal Mindy's picture

RIO n Whitby

"Rio Carnival is a wild 5-day celebration, 40 days before Easter. It officially starts on Friday and finishes on Fat Tuesday with the beginning of Lent on Ash Wednesday after which one is supposed to abstain from all bodily pleasures."

"Carnival with all its excesses, celebrated as a profane event, could be interpreted an act of farewell to the pleasures of the flesh. It is usually in February, the hottest month in the Southern Hemisphere, when summer in Rio is at its peak. There are carnival celebrations on virtually every corner of Brazil, the best-known ones taking place in Recife together with the neighboring Olinda (in the Northeast of Brazil) and Salvador. But the biggest and most famous carnival is undoubtedly Carnival in Rio de Janeiro."

http://www.rio-carnival.net/

Ah, so, if they changing the Easter day erm who will be doing the public consultation...  wots the rain got to do with it ....

Ah, so -  the Butterfly effect ...Ooops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiwqRSCWw2g

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The Bark & 'Endeavour'

https://www.yorkshirecoastradio.com/news/local-news/2406358/hm-bark-ende...

"9:33am 18th October 2017
(Updated 9:34am 18th October 2017)

A replica of one of the most famous ships in maritime exploration is heading to Whitby.

HM Bark Endeavour was commanded by Captain James Cook and now a replica of the ship will voyage along the North York Moors coast to Whitby. 

The ship was purchased by Whitby businessman Andrew Fiddler, beating off competition that could have seen the ship moved to Portsmouth, London or Dubai. 

It will arrive in the town next year, coinciding with the 250th anniversary of when Captain Cook first set sail from Portsmouth to observe the transit of Venus at Tahiti, circumnavigate and chart New Zealand and chart the East coast of Australia. 

Mr Fiddler now plans to spend nearly £750,000 refurbishing and repairing the 33-metre long Teesside-built ship and then relocating it next year from its current berth at Stockton-on-Tees to Whitby, where the original Endeavour was built in 1764. 

The ship will remain in Stockton over winter to undergo extensive refurbishment and much-needed repairs.

This will involve the huge logistical operation of moving the vessel from its current position on the river Tees and into a dry dock to enable the refurbishment programme to be carried out.

Mr Fiddler intends re-opening HM Bark Endeavour as an historic tourist attraction and centre of learning for schools and colleges, with the aid of product development and business support from the Coastal Communities Fund project being delivered by the North York Moors National Park Authority. 

Andrew said:

“To have secured one of the most distinctive and historic maritime attractions is fantastic particularly as I’ve had a lifelong passion for the sea. 

Not only did I serve in the Royal Navy but I also participated in Endeavour ’90, a six-month circumnavigation of the globe which included visiting Dutch Harbour in the Aleutian Islands where Cook landed.

Now we have to carefully work out a complex programme for sensitively refurbishing the ship so that once again HM Bark Endeavour can tell the story of life at sea in the 18th century.”

 

Catriona McLees, Head of Promotion and Tourism for the North York Moors National Park Authority added:

“We’re delighted to help support a project that has such a strong resonance with the National Park particularly with Cook’s early years being spent near Roseberry Topping and Great Ayton before he moved to Staithes and then onto Whitby where his maritime career began. 

 The ship will be a great draw for visitors and encourage them to make their own discoveries of the wonders along our coast.”

Cllr Derek Bastiman, Leader of Scarborough Borough Council said:

“The council is absolutely delighted that this impressive full-size replica of HM Bark Endeavour has been bought locally and will make Whitby its new base in the near future.

As one of only two such vessels in the world, not only will it be a proud moment for the local community, it will be a fantastic visitor attraction and a valuable contributor to the Yorkshire coast economy.

We look forward to working with the new owner on their exciting plans, which will include promoting Whitby as its new home and ensuring it can be properly accommodated within the harbour area, without compromising existing operations.”

Excellent.

Wot the 'humble' D'rk is not telling you is he went (at his own time & expense)  to take a hook, did some measurements, load bearing costings etc etc

Anchors away....

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe9YBJt0x14

Tis a Site for Sore Ayes

Triffids ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SBSUe-Luzc

Ha.