Trident v Underwater Drones

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Under the radar ...  underwater drone strapped with explosives found near gas pipelines:

"An unmanned military underwater vehicle rigged with explosives was spotted on the seabed in the vicinity of the Nord Stream gas pipeline in the Baltics on Friday, Swedish media report. The device is expected to be disarmed on November 9.

An abandoned expendable remotely-operated mine clearance underwater vehicle allegedly with explosives onboard has been detected in multinational waters of the Baltic Sea by the Swedish Navy, Svenska Daglabet reports.

The discovery was made during a routine check of the Nord Stream pipeline. Since it was discovered in the Swedish economic zone, north of the island of Gotland, the Nord Stream pipeline operator immediately notified the Swedish military."

"The type of ROV (remote operated vehicle) found near Gotland is typically used to disarm big unremovable munitions found on seabed, as the drone is blown up along with the dangerous object.

Although there is every indication that the UUV carries an explosive charge, the Swedish military believe it cannot do any harm.

“We don't consider it to be dangerous to merchant vessels or the pipeline at this point,” Jesper Stolpe, Swedish Armed Forces spokesman, told Radio Sweden. According to Stolpe, the cable used to control the drone and to set off the explosive was cut off, so at the moment the vehicle is relatively harmless.

The national identity of the drone has not been verified so far, as many countries use UUVs of a similar construction, Stolpe said.

The Swedish military precludes the possibility of sabotage against the pipeline, Stolpe said.

An attempt to disarm the UUV or take it away from the pipeline is going to be made on Monday, November 9.

The Nord Stream pipeline connecting Russia and Germany was constructed by energy giant Gazprom in close cooperation with companies from Germany, France and the Netherlands."

Wow, with all the focus being on what goes on above and not below :

A guide to Trident: - there are currently 4 - one armed and dangerous, one in dock and two at port or on training manouvres (sounds like my siblings) : the assumption of one being sat in the east med for quite a while ... somewhere someplace secretly  under the waves to protect the UK "Only one submarine is on patrol at any one time and it needs several days' notice to fire."  Erm to fire what ?

One recently sprung up in LA :^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^search

Not quite South Pacific ... Anyhow the Trident debate rumbles along but its not those that are particularly of interest here but the Trident support vessels - made in Barrow, by BAE systems, (Marconi & BA, formerly Vickers - the tank builders in Leeds) ... cute ... Astute.   Yes the Astute submarines are quite dinky and specifically built to support Trident and replace the Vanguard boats.  They have no other purpose, which is a shame really because the loss of Trident would mean a loss of the Astutes would mean the loss of about 6000 jobs in and around Barrow alone.

Ambush, Artful & Audacious ...

Can you imagine one of these being towed down the road in  LA ?   What on Earth would they do with their Ufology folks ...

Back in Barrow (2011) : "It looks like a James Bond set, only bigger" ... "The Northern economy is supposed to be dour and in the doldrums, but here are young people helping to create the marine equivalent of the space shuttle."

Yep, who needs LA.

A closer look

Oh I gotta sea that again ;-)

Hmmm ... kinda looks familiar ... muscle ...

The Ark Hotel - China


Oh could they be floating Nucleur power stations ...

Vanguards are steam powered :


Vanguards v Astutes:

OK, so why this 'sudden' interest in U-Boats ... Remembrance Day

Poppy day .... North Atlantic Crossings ... U boats ....

This ones for my Uncle - Great :-))

Services to be held in Skardiburg this year ...?

Up the Mount or .... erm bless:

"Cadets will meet up at 09:00 outside of Queen Street Methodist Church, near 'Boyes'.  After the Remembrance Service we will march down Eastborough to the Sea Front and hold our 2 mins silence on the 'West Pier'.  There will be the traditional Ceremony followed by two of our Cadets taking a boat out to Sea to place a wreath of Poppies on the water.   Please remember immaculate Number 1's and poppies in your caps.  This is our annual opportunity to show thanks and to pay respects to those who have paid the ultimate price."




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Fireworks in California

Lol -

"i either just saw the ISS fly by and used its rockets and was rising upwards OR i just saw some other rocket launched at 6 pm pst , here in Ca. So far there isn't info on the net about this , just that International Space Station ISS was visible early this morning , so what gives ?" linked

lol? ... launching

Surfing USA ...


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Mysterons & Gravity

"logged at about 35 miles off the CA Coast well within the Vandenburg AFB Missile testing range."

The Gravity :


Mebbe Porshe should make the 'buttons' erm,  kinda like a placebo effect  ... just in case some nutcase gets the job...

a placebo response from George Osborne :

Oh, OK ... Out of Order ...

Scarey, innit.

Ban the buttons?



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The LA Plot Thickens

Mikhail Lesin, 57, Russia's former press minister and a one-time head of the powerful Gazprom-Media Holding group, died on Thursday, they said.

Russian media, quoting his family, said he suffered a heart attack.

The Washington Post quoted Russian embassy officials as saying Mr Lesin's body was found in a room at the Dupont Circle hotel.

Mr Lesin worked as an aide to the presidency between 2004 and 2009, when he helped advise on the creation of the news channel Russia Today.

RT :-) Karma

Meanwhile :

"President Sisi (2nd right) was in London when news broke about Britain's judgement about safety in Sinai"

Explosives don't go bang by themselves  ...

They mustav more 'fun' in China ...



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Charlie Foxtrot II

"For instance, it was some re-assurance to learn that two of Scarborough’s fee-paying, boys’ boarding schools, Bramcote, the preparatory on Filey Road, and the College, for older boys, had announced that they intended to return by the beginning of 1916. Bramcote had been evacuated to temporary accommodation in Berkshire and Scarborough College had found sanctuary in Keswick."

Bramcote was commandeered in WWII by the RAF  to train the crew of the Spitfires ...

& in Whitby

...  harking back to the times when it was the Fisherman that saved the lives at sea.

Apart from the picture of Ginger's future D'Wharf .. I dig WG's sense of humour ...

"mines remained the most deadly enemy for fishermen going about their work."





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Whoops - doesn't quite Cut it ...

Trident could be obsolete

Russian submarine spotted off Scotland

Do Turkeys vote for Christmas?

Do you know how much ejector seats cost?  Who cares.... it costs more to train a pilot than build a jet. 


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Burrows & Barrow


"The unit will form part of an Astute class nuclear-powered submarine.

The first two submarines of the seven-sub programme - HMS Astute and HMS Ambush - are already in service.

Four more are in various stages of construction at Barrow - the Audacious, Anson, Agamemnon and an as-yet-unnamed submarine."

Artful? Erm Dodger ...


As an optional, extra?

Cycle power ...

Nope, canna find the Carlisle thing ... Settled. 

No comment.

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Arctic Vaults

Again ;-)

A special vault has been built in the Arctic to store thousands of seeds, as scientists fear the impact of climate change and prolonged conflicts could have devastating consequences on food crops around the world.

The Global Seed Vault has been built inside a mountain, near the town of Longyearbyen on the remote Svalbard Islands.

It stores thousands of sample seeds from dozens of different countries.

BBC's David Shukman has been given special access to the vault

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"Climate change and disturbance caused by the increased use of underwater sonar are among the factors being studied internationally."

“I will never forget seeing young girls being rescued from a boat on Leros. They were smiling. They didn’t have suitcases or any possessions except their end-of-year school certificates written in Arabic. They laid those down in the sun to dry out. It was a combination of tragedy and hope.”


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Drones & Trident

"Shadow home secretary Andy Burnham says it may be "impossible" for Labour to reach an agreed position on Trident.

Mr Burnham, who backs renewal of the UK's nuclear weapons, said a review by shadow defence secretary Emily Thornberry would be "very difficult".

Jeremy Corbyn backs unilateral nuclear disarmament and Scottish Labour has already adopted such a policy.

But Ms Thornberry has been accused of living in "la la land" amid claims the leadership might "fix" the outcome.

The shadow defence secretary received a hostile reception when she discussed the review at a meeting of Labour MPs on Monday evening. Ex-shadow defence minister Kevan Jones said Ms Thornberry had taken questions "but didn't answer any", adding that she had been "waffly and incoherent".

Some MPs told reporters outside the room that she had said Trident could soon be as obsolete as the Spitfire fighter aircraft was after the Second World War....

"Ms Thornberry said she had been trying to explain that Trident may be overtaken by technology such as underwater drones, which were being developed to track submarines.

"The idea of the Trident replacement is that it can hide in the sea. If technology is moving faster than that then it may well be that Trident may not be able to hide.

"And if that's right, and if we are to bet everything on 'mutually assured destruction', we have to be assured that it will work - and if it cannot hide any more then that is a problem."

La La Land?

the unmissable Deutschsland 83  ;-)

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Flat Earth unveils a Hybrid High

"The world's longest aircraft has been brought out of its hangar for the first time.

The Airlander 10, a plane-airship hybrid, was piloted out of the UK's biggest hangar at Cardington Airfield, Bedfordshire, at 04:00 BST on Saturday.

The 302ft-long (92m) aircraft passed with just a few feet to spare through the hangar doors and was then towed for 30 minutes to its mast site.

It was the public debut for the £25m craft, christened the Martha Gwyn...."

"British firm Hybrid Air Vehicles (HAV) has spent the past nine years developing the prototype in the Cardington hangar after the US Army ran out of money to develop it as a surveillance machine.

HAV has said the vessel could have many uses including surveillance, communications, transporting cargo, humanitarian missions and passenger travel."


"The airship can stay in the same spot for three weeks and can even fly with bullet holes in it ... the future for air travel...

It can take off vertically and land on almost any surface, including ice, desert and water.... ultimate flight experience for tourism and leisure purposes... coastguard duties, military and civil surveillance, filming and academic research....  deliver heavy equipment to remote corners of the world might also find the aircraft useful.... humanitarian missions.... "

Erm, tis no laughing matter


"The aircraft needs 1.3m cubic feet of helium - enough to fill 15 Olympic-sized swimming pools - to get off the ground."


"... There’s at least 54 billion cubic feet of the stuff (enough to make everyone on Earth sound squeaky for about 20 minutes) and likely much more. That’s just under seven times the annual global demand..."

Ah, so .... A frack a day ?

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The Itchy & Scratchy Show

"In a topsy-turvy world, metals have shown surprising strength. After cratering in 2015, a basket of major commodities has soared in price this year, from the remarkable 36pc climb of iron ore, to the stellar performance of precious metals, with gold and silver up 25pc and 43pc respectively. Zinc, a mineral used to galvanise other metals to stop them rusting, has chalked up a 41pc rise.

One of the few analysts to call iron ore’s recovery was Jason Schenker, of Prestige Economics, who now thinks the metal – used to make steel – will probably extend its rally into the second half, averaging $55 a tonne. Some of the FTSE 100 miners would probably bite your arm off if you offered them iron ore at that price. BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto and Anglo American all produce the metal at far below that level, meaning they can comfortably bank cash at $55 a tonne and get on with paying down debt..."

Awe ... "Allan Gamble has left the Company"

Bon Voyage ... don't forget to send a postcard X

Mozi ...

The future is Orange  ;-)





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A Scratch in the Hatch

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Ping Pong

"...The Canadian military has investigated a mysterious pinging sound coming from the sea floor in a remote region of the Arctic, officials have told the BBC.

The strange noise is reported by local people to have frightened animals away over the past few months.

A military aircraft conducted various multi-sensor searches in the area, officials said on Friday.

But the military says it is so far unable to explain the cause of the "acoustic anomalies".

"The [aircraft] crew did not detect any surface or sub-surface contacts," the military said in a statement released to the BBC.

"The only thing the crew did observe were two pods of whales and six walruses in the area of interest...."

Background Noise ...

"Various explanations for the sound have been put forward by the Canadian press:

  • It is a sonar survey conducted by a mining company
  • It is being generated on purpose by Greenpeace to scare wildlife away from the rich hunting ground
  • It is caused by military submarines

However, local mining companies insist they do not work in the area, Greenpeace has denied it is responsible and the military say no submarines - either domestic or foreign - are known to have operated in the area.

"The cause of the pings remains mired in mystery," the defence spokesman said."



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Pong Ping

"... The strange noise is reported by local people to have frightened animals away over the past few months.

A military aircraft conducted various multi-sensor searches in the area, officials said on Friday.

But the military says it is so far unable to explain the cause of the "acoustic anomalies".

"The [aircraft] crew did not detect any surface or sub-surface contacts," the military said in a statement released to the BBC.

"The only thing the crew did observe were two pods of whales and six walruses in the area of interest."

Jump ... into the loop.

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Scotman : LSE

"Departure or destination.

Yip, but what is absolutely crystal clear is that the people want change. People are decided that they've had enough of global dominance.
People, real people, want to look after their own house. This is made clear by both Brexit and current results for the US presidency.
Politicians across the world need to be very careful and mind who they listen to."

Slightly ....

People are fed up of working and have nothing to show for it ... all the doom n gloom economic policies .... tis almost 10 years of global recession and the economic divide is widening.

Indeed, tis a gangstas paradise ... but who are the real gangstas .... not the people. 

Trump exemplifies .... a top down system.  


Extreme ?

lol :

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Will Hillary finally give Bill the roasting?
It would have been very difficult to vote for 'humiliation' not least 'anihilation'. 
Anyhooos ... moving on... wotever 'appens over there can't 'appen over 'ere, eh? Pondlife.
A Cunning Plan?
No pain no gain ...
Hmmm ...
Ah, so ... Table Manors :-0
When in Rome ...

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Dam Busters

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The Seven Seas

''I knew perfectly well that nobody would be able to correct my mistake if I had made one''

"I had all the data [to suggest there was an ongoing missile attack]. If I had sent my report up the chain of command, nobody would have said a word against it," he said.

"All I had to do was to reach for the phone; to raise the direct line to our top commanders - but I couldn't move. I felt like I was sitting on a hot frying pan."

Although his training dictated he should contact the Soviet military immediately, Petrov instead called the duty officer at army headquarters and reported a system malfunction..."

"If he had been wrong, the first nuclear blasts would have happened minutes later.

"Twenty-three minutes later I realised that nothing had happened. If there had been a real strike, then I would already know about it. It was such a relief," he recalled.

A later investigation concluded that Soviet satellites had mistakenly identified sunlight reflecting on clouds as the engines of intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Petrov, who retired with the rank of lieutenant colonel, died on 19 May but news of his passing became widely known only this month, thanks to a chance phone call.

German film-maker Karl Schumacher, who first brought Petrov's story to an international audience, telephoned him to wish him a happy birthday on 7 September only to be informed by his son, Dmitry Petrov, that he had passed away.

Mr Schumacher announced the death online and it was eventually picked up by media outlets."

Awe Bless.

The silent phew ...

Chews wisely.


Nah, 23 minutes later ....never pelt a fling.

Oh Well.

Heave Ho.

Ha ...



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SOFA Season

"While the government has dubbed 2017 "the Year of the Royal Navy" and emphasised its commitment to a new national shipbuilding strategy, observers at the MoD noticed that this blueprint contained no commitment to renew the amphibious warfare fleet..."

Islands are so old hat ...

Yup, just get Haven to open a camp ;-0

"Haven, the holiday firm that runs the Craig Tara site, said it had recently introduced state-of-the-art software that seeks to target and report suspicious pages and listings across social media sites.

A statement said: "Whilst we have only experienced a relatively small number of people who have been duped into making fraudulent bookings, we are committed to proactively targeting these sites where we can."